What You Need to Know about the Special Power of Attorney

One of the most common questions asked to us is the process of applying for a loan when you are abroad. Many lenders require the OFW-borrower to be in the Philippines because of the documents that needs to be filled. Nonetheless, they understand that time is not on your side and there is a possibility that you have to go back in the middle of the application process or even before the funds are released.

What can you do? The lenders will ask you to sign a Special Power of Attorney or SPA.

Special Power of Attorney, simplified 

By definition, SPA is a type of legal document that allows you to appoint and authorize a person or an organization to handle your affairs when you are unavailable, unable to do so, or in your case, while you are abroad. The person you will assign will be called attorney-in-fact or agent and he or she will transact on your behalf.

Who can be your attorney-in-fact?

The answer is anyone, as long as you can trust him or her. He or she can be your spouse, any one of your parents, child above 18 years old, or a trusted friend or relative. There is no limitation as to who you can appoint, but make sure that person is honest and trustworthy since they are representing you.

Does the SPA have to be notarized? 

The general rule is no, the Special Power of Attorney need not be notarized to be valid; however, this rule applies ONLY when you executed the SPA in the Philippines.

What if you are abroad? Then the document must not only be notarized but also be consularized. This means the Philippine Embassy or Consul in the country where you are assigned duly certified and authenticated the SPA you executed. Otherwise, the SPA will not be binding and the lender will not allow anyone to process your loan application in the absence of this document.

For SPA to be consularized, you must comply with the following requirements:

  • Holder of Philippine passport, with the first and last page photocopied.
  • Presentation of any Philippine government ID in the absence of passport (please confirm this with the Philippine Embassy since some may require both passport and ID).
  • Personal appearance.
  • Two witnesses of legal age, who must accompany you in the Embassy to personally witness the execution of the SPA. Take note that the witnesses must also present proof of identification showing that they are of legal age.
  • Payment of notarial fee, which will vary per country.

Even if you assigned someone to transact on your behalf in connection with the loan, take note that the powers and duties are still limited. Your attorney-in-fact may receive the loan proceeds and sign documents on your behalf but s/he cannot sell any of your assets.

251 Replies to “What You Need to Know about the Special Power of Attorney”

    1. Hello Jonas. You may appoint anyone to be your attorney-in-fact; however, we recommend that this person is someone you can trust. This is why it is recommended that you go for your spouse or sibling (must be of legal age) since s/he will represent you on your behalf.

    2. hello just want to ask I’m here in Samoa and there is no Philippines embassy here do I need to travel all the way to New Zealand just to consularized my SPA for my daughter passport? Thanks

  1. What if the person in abroad will be making a SPA here in the Philiippines? She will be assigning someone to make the SPA. Is that possible?

    1. Hi Christian. If the person abroad will execute a SPA authorizing someone in the Philippines to be attorney-in-fact, that SPA must be consularized in the Philippine to make the SPA binding here in the Philippines 🙂

        1. Hello Donah. If executed abroad, the SPA must both be notarized and consularized. If SPA is executed in the Philippines, notarization is enough 🙂

          1. Hello, I just want to ask if I can make an SPA or does it need to be done by a lawyer? And if I can, will I ksut have to noyarized it to be valid?

          2. Hi Vira! There are many sample formats online which you can use to pattern your SPA. No need na lawyer. BUT, this must be notarized to make it valid and binding 🙂

          3. Hi! Is there an expiry for SPA? Can she sign during her vacation here in the Philippines so as to avoid the hassle of having it consularized in the country where she resides?

          4. Hi Mai! The SPA will only expire upon the satisfaction of the purpose indicated in the SPA. Yes, she can sign while she’s here para hindi na po magconsualrize.

      1. Hi .
        so ibig ba sabihin, possible ba na pwede akong gumawa ng spa dito sa pilipinas In behalf of the real person na dapat gumawa kung saan nasa ibang bansa siya. Stating na sa spa inaallow niya ako to do so. Tas ipapadala sa abroad ung spa for the signature tas ipapadala ulit pabalik.? Thanks

        1. Hi Rox! If we will be strict about it, bawal po yun since we are circumventing the process 🙂 To make things simpler and avoid consularization, you can do that (although we do not recommend it). Please consult a lawyer to be sure about this since we don’t want to give wrong advice on something we’re not familiar with. Thanks!

        1. Hi Angela! If the SPA is executed in the Philippines, then there is no need to have it consularized. Nonetheless, dapat notarized ang document.

  2. Hi! I understand the need of securing a notarized SPA especially in loan transactions done by an agent in favor of the principal who is abroad. This is possible for land-based workers (ofw) because they can easily go to any of the philippine consular offices in the country where they work but how about SPA’s of seafarers who have less or no time at all to go there because of round-the-clock duties inside their vessels coupled with great distance between the port and the consular offices? Pls reply thanks

    1. Hi Connie! In that case, seafarers can have the SPA notarized and consularized in any Philippine Embassy, as long as that embassy ay madadaanan ng barko nila 🙂

  3. What if in the spa stated that the principal (wife) died but the husband is still alive. Is the spa still valid? Given that both of their name is mentioned on the spa.

    1. Hi Charles! For what purpose? Also, who executed the SPA and who will be attorney-in-fact? Please take note po that the powers or duties enumerated in the SPA are only extended to the person assigned as attorney-in-fact 🙂

  4. Hello po, I just want to ask, My fiancee is a seafarer and he is not allowed nor able to embark on any country they are going in. In short po, totally barko lang po siya? How can he execute SPA po? Thank you.

  5. Hi! I’m confused. My sister is the main borrower of a loan in the Phils, and I’m (in California) is the co-borrower. She said I need an SPA appointing her. How exactly do we accomplish that? Thanks!

    1. Hi Anna! I’m confused as well 🙂 May we know the purpose as to why she needs SPA in appointing you? If you are her co-borrower, perhaps the SPA is required so that she can act on your behalf as well since you are both obligated to pay the loan. I hope this helps!

  6. The wife owns a property under PAG-IBIG and wants to sell her property under PAG-IBIG with assume balance but her husband is working in abroad. Does it necessary to get an SPA from him before taking over her property? Or is there other way?

    1. Hi Laurence. We cannot comment on this because of incomplete facts such as how and when the property was acquired by the wife or if the property was acquired prior or during the marriage. These details could be crucial since it will define whether there is a need for the husband’s consent.

    1. Hi! We think there is a desk or office specific for that purpose in Philippine Embassy. Nonetheless, it is best to call ahead and see if the person in charge is available on a certain date to be sure 🙂

  7. If I am designated agent in a General Power of Attorney, can I issue a Special Power of Attorney to another agent to act in my stead?

    1. Hi Pinky. From what we know, “what is delegated cannot be delegated again.” Though we are not a lawyer, so it is best to confirm this with someone who is knowledgeable of Philippine laws. Thanks!

  8. Pde ko ba magamit ang SPA document na e travel ang anak ko pauwi ng pinas dito kc ako nanganak sa ibang bansa nasa pinas ang tatay nya ano po ba dapat i present sa airport para madala ko pauwi anak ko ..uuwi na kc kami complito kmi sa passport

    1. Hi Kinda. We’re sorry but we’re not sure as to this procedure since we are simply a loans company. We suggest po that you present the birth certificate and passport ng anak ninyo upon check-in sa airport. The SPA simply means that you are appointing someone to act on your behalf since you cannot be physically present to do transactions yourself. Thanks!

  9. hi! I would like to ask if it’s okay po ba na more than one person po yung ilalagay sa SPA na e aapoint mo?
    thank you

    1. Hi Mary Dian. Yes, you can. Although please indicate nalang if and-or yung authority ng mga tao na ia-appoint mo sa SPA. For instance, signing documents on your behalf, please indicate that any or both attorney-in-fact must sign 🙂

    1. Hi Ems. If the purpose stated in the SPA is the same and no changes naman po sa attorney-in-fact, wala naman po issue if last year pa po ang date.

  10. My aunt is from seattle. She needs to send an SPA to be used here in Philippines. Can she have the document be notarized at their local county, then have it mailed to philippine consulate?

    1. Hi Victor! The SPA must also be consularized in the Philippine Embassy or Consulate to make it binding here in the Philippines 🙂

    2. Hello po! Ask ko lng Kung ano yong steps para makakuha ng SPA, gusto ko po sana ipa red ribbon yong marriage cert. namin and to have a stamp sa embassy ng Manila, but I will ask someone to do it, since I’m here in Dubai.Possible po ba na kami nlng gagawa ng format ng SPA at para ma pirmahan namin at ipa notarize nlng sa attorney doon sa Amin sa pinas?since may uuwi po na kamag anak ipapadala nlng namin yong letter.valid po yon? Or pag dito po sa Dubai Kami kukuha ng SPA , ano po dapat gawin? Please help me po. Thank you.

      1. Hi Jick! If the document will be done in the Philippines, then there is no need po to consularize. Notarization lang po is enough na. But if sa ibang bansa po gagawin, kailangan po na ipa-consularize din sa Philippines.

  11. hello,just want to ask i had a loan in taiwan for a somewhat loanshark which is also a Filipina made last 2014.already in Phils.now which still have debts not paid.im willing to pay per month but only to a certain amount i can afford but she will not agree.they plan to file a case against me but using an SPA as her mother as a representative.i signed a demand letter already but the demand letter was under the person whom i borrowed money in taiwan and no named mentioned for the mother for SPA.can this still be valid as demand letter?

    1. Hello Ech. We’re sorry to hear about this situation. Based on the facts, it could still be a valid demand letter especially if the person whom you borrowed to was the one who made the demand. Perhaps, the SPA was only intended to allow the mother to act on her behalf even if she is not the in the Philippines. I hope you can work this out so no need to go to court.

  12. Hi! My sister is currently in Dubai. Now she has some documents to be authenticated in DFA. SPA is required and I’m the one to be assigned. I’m lost as to how she’ll manage to get an SPA abroad and send the SPA document to me here in the Philipppines

    1. Hello there. She has to execute SPA in Dubai and then go to Philippine Embassy/Consulate to have it notarized and consularized. Then, she can send the documents back in the Philippines 🙂

      1. Hi! I was wondering. for the same situation, my dad already has his SPA na and all the other requirements for the spa to be enforceable but we were wondering if pwede ba na iscan nlg yung SPA niya just so that we can get the needed documents ASAP instead of waiting for it to arrive thru mail?

        1. Hi Cate! Original is required, but you can ask the other party if they can accept the scanned SPA in the meantime. Then present nalang the original once dumating na para lang makuha na ang required documents 🙂

    1. Hello Che. Is the SPA still required to do certain transactions? If yes, then you have to secure another SPA (notarized and consularized) again so that certain transactions will take place.

  13. Hello.. i bought a property in the philippines and as for now instead of a deed of sale from the owner i asked them to give me an irrevocable power of attorney to do all necessary transactions about the said property.. its not because i dont wanna pay the taxes but i didnt made up my mind yet that time if i will name the property under my mom or my son or sell the property to other person. But next year im planning to make a move of making a deed of sale to sell it or to make a deed for my mom then transfer the title to her name.. i just want to ask if everything is legal as to my plan? Or if the previous owner dies before the transfer of title will take place, will i encounter a problem with his sons and daughter since i only have the s.p.a.. the documents that i have right now are the acknowledgement of the previous owner of the money that they received from me and the notarized irrevocable s.p.a and anotation of the title.

    1. Hello Aina! We appreciate you coming to us for advice, but we are not lawyers; hence not qualified to comment on whether this move is legal or not. From our understanding, you are still not the owner of the property you bought because basing on the title, it is still not under your name and there is no Deed of Sale that signifies you are now the new owner. We suggest to consult a legal expert on this matter since they are more qualified to help you on this. Thanks!

  14. Hi,

    Just wanted to ask, the owner of the land in Philippines passed away and the land is being sold, however , based on law, mamana nung mga anak yung lupa pero wala pong kasulatan. Yung anak, 2 legitimate and 2 illegitimate, question ko po, yung isang illegitimate na anak na minor ay british citizen, can he assign his mom yung SPA para mabenta yung lupa dito sa Pilipinas? Possible po ba ito?

    1. Hello Mike. Sounds like a complicated situation for us 🙂 As much as we want to help or give advice, we are not qualified to do so because we are not lawyers 🙂 We don’t want to give any advice we’re not sure of, especially when it comes to legal matters. We suggest po you consult a lawyer since s/he is more equipped to comment on this matter. Thanks!

    1. Hi Alice. That could be possible, although it is best to specify one or two lang to make the situation less complicated 🙂 Also, you have to indicate kung AND or OR ang authority. For instance, sa pag-process ng loan application, dapat dalawang tao ang mag-aasikaso.

  15. Hi, I am an OFW and have an SPA appointing my sister to assist in renewing my daughter’s passport. I executed an SPA signed and notarized whilst I am in the Philippines. The DFA officer did not accept the SPA because they wanted an SPA authenticated by the Embassy due to the reason the parents are outside the country.
    This is from the DFA’s site requirements. ***In case applicant is not accompanied by the parent/s during the application process

    Applicant must submit a Special Power of Attorney executed by the parent/s designating the minor’s companion to assist in the application process. The Special Power of Attorney must be authenticated by the Philippine Embassy/Consulate if executed abroad**

    Can you please advise if the DFA’s request for authenticated SPA is valid? Thank you.

    1. Hello Melody. If the SPA is executed while in the Philippines, then there is no need to have it consularized since dito naman po ito ginawa. Consularization is only required IF SPA is executed abroad. Perhaps, you can show proof that the SPA was executed here by showing a photocopy of the passport bearing your date of departure as opposed to the date of notarization 🙂

      1. Thanks, Lara! Actually, I did. I included a copy of the pages of my passport with the Philippine Immigration passport stamp of the date of departure as a proof that on the day the SPA is executed, I am physically present in the country. Sad, but they need to be educated on their requirements.

  16. Hello,

    Quick question, does this pertain to non-loan transactions as well? I would like to request for my school transcripts but my school has been asking for an SPA.

    Thanks in advance!

    -H

    1. Hello Honey! Yes, SPA can be used for non-loan transactions. Just be specific on the purpose of the SPA and who will be your attorney-in-fact 🙂

  17. Hi there. My mom purchase a rights almost 20 years ago at kami na ang nagpatuloy ng bayad sa pagibig. We have the original deed of sale but Walang SPA. Hindi na namin alam kung nasaan na original na may ari. Is there any document to replace SPA in case we need to get the original title na sa Pagibig kapag na full payment na namin? Thanks in advance.

    1. Hello Marj! We apologize but we are not in the best position to provide advise on this matter because we are not PAG-IBIG. Rather, we are a fin-tech company that offers loan products and useful information for OFWs. it is best to raise this matter directly with PAG-IBIG (http://www.pagibigfund.gov.ph/contacthdmf.aspx) since they are more capable in assisting you regarding this concern. Thanks!

  18. Good day Ma’am/ Sir!

    I have a question po because my mom needs a DFA Authenticated CENOMAR and she have sent an SPA that is under my name (son) as a representative to process her documents she need however I may not be process her documents due to work schedule. Can my father process the document of my mom even though the SPA is under my name and if I could create an authorization instead for my father?

    1. Hello Denver! Apparently, you cannot assign something that is already assigned to you 🙂 The best thing to do is to execute another SPA authorizing your father to act on behalf of your mother. Take note that if the document was executed and notarized overseas, it has to be consularized as well. Hope this helps. thanks!

  19. hellow po… i just want to.ask is it possible for someone in abroad that she will be assigning someone in the philippines to make her SPA?

    1. Hi Mai! Yes, possible naman po since SPA can be done anywhere 🙂 But magkaka-issue po sa signature since kailangan yung principal must physically sign the document to make it valid.

  20. hello, I have a question regarding SPA. Is the SPA also subject to approval of the loan? Someone told me that my SPA has to be employed and has enough salary so our loan can get approved? Isn’t that for co borrower? Now, I’m confused because they said that once you appoint an SPA, he/she is also considered co borrower

    1. Hi Bads! The attorney-in-fact assigned thru SPA must be of legal age and capable of giving consent. Hindi na po material ang financial capacity 🙂

  21. hi, im sherwyn from iceland. . . im done with the notarial and to the ministry of foreign affairs here, can i send now my SPA to the Philippines?

    1. Hello Sherwyn. If the SPA is already notarized and consularized (which means there should also be a seal from the embassy/consulate), then yes, you can send it in the Philippines and the document is already binding 🙂

  22. Hi may i ask if yung SPA is applicable sa pagkuha ng COE Or backpay and if need pa ipa notarized and kung san pde kumuha ng SPA. thanks in advance

    1. Hi Princess! Depende po yan sa company. If ni-require nila na SPA, then SPA po dapat ang isubmit para makuha ang backpay or COE. But in instances like this, usually authorization letter will do, but it’s best to confirm this muna with the company. Salamat!

  23. Hi, i just recieved a notarized SPA from my mom in the US. my question is if can i used this SPA to transfer the property title in my name , being the buyer and the seller at the same time indicated on the deed of sale?

    1. Hi Mar! If the SPA states that your mom is authorizing you to transact on her behalf regarding the transfer of property under your name, then yes, you can use the SPA for that specific purpose only.

  24. hi ask lang po my boyfriend is in saudi right now. i was the one who get his backpay from his last job here in phil. it is possible for just to send him tha format of spa and make him fill up and signed it then send it here like a picture only and pa print ko lng po?

    1. Hello Jeramie! Unfortunately, SPA doesn’t work that way. Since your boyfriend is abroad and he will be the one executing the SPA, it should be notarized and consularized sa Philippine Embassy. Once done, pwede na po i-send sa Pilipinas for your perusal 🙂

  25. Hi, I am currently in Dubai and I want to provide General PA to my sibling living in the Philippines to do some transactions on my behalf. I cannot go Home this year and there are some transactions that needs to be attended this Year (2018). How do I get my sibling General PA from Dubai?

    1. Hi Geri! You can check online for formats for General Power of Attorney and just edit it accordingly. The document must be consularized in the Philippine Embassy as well to make it valid and binding in the Philippines.

  26. Hello,

    This is not loan related but still regarding an SPA. I have someone from US executing an SPA appointing a Filipino here in the Philippines to transact with the BIR related to donors taxes. Would it be possible the SPA be notarized here in the Philippines instead in abroad? and do we still need to have the SPA be consularized, if the notarization is done in the Philippines?

    1. Hi Yen! If the SPA is executed and notarized in the Philippines, there is no need to consularize it. Documents must only be consularized IF the documents were executed abroad 🙂

  27. Hello po!
    How about po if i authorized a person to get a “travel records” on my behalf, do i still need a SPA?

    1. Hello there Evamay! If the agency so requires, then yes, there must be SPA po. Otherwise, an authorization letter will do so it is best to check po with the concerned agency kung kailangan SPA 🙂

  28. Hi,

    Nagpaconsularized po ako ng SPA pero sabi sa BIR kailangan daw nakanotarized ung SPA. Ganun po ba yun? Ang sabi kasi ng consulate ung ACKNOWLEDGEMENT ay same narin sa pagkanotaryo.

      1. Hi I am from north dakota. I am looking for someone who can notarized my SPA, send it to the embassy for consularization then back to me. Can you recommend someone? Do you have any ideas of the total fees that they will be charging me? Thank you

  29. Hello my mom gave me my SPA for my passport and its not yet aunthenticated, is okay to aunthenticate it here in the Philippines or it should be aunthenticated from their Philippine Embassy? But my Mom said the Nearest Phil. Embassy there is in Washington But my mom doesnt have US Visa thats why she cant go there

    1. If the SPA was executed in the Philippines, then there is no need to consularize. All you have to do is to notarize the document to make it valid. If the SPA was made outside the Philippines, then it has to be notarized and consularized in the Philippine Embassy to make it valid and binding here 🙂

  30. Hello, nagiissue po ba ng SPA and Philippine Embassies for foreigners? Kelangan ko po kasi ng Travel records ng Japanese father ko from Buraeu of Immigration? If hindi po, saan po pwede mag issue ng SPA for foreigners?

    1. Hello Jan. From what we know, there is no “SPA for foreigners.” You can check online to get a copy or format on how to make SPA and then just fill in the details according to your desired purpose 🙂

  31. Hi..good day,sir, valid po ba yung bentahan ng lupa kung in that day..pumirma yung may ari ng property sa isang SPA para yung taong nasa SPA ang siyang pipirma sa deed of sale on that day lang din yung bentahan na nangyari? Curious lang po kasi kaya naman pumirma nung mga may ari nung lupa kasi nakapirma naman sila sa isang SPA kasi andyan lang sila..

    1. Hello! If the SPA expressly states that the attorney-in-fact can sell the property, then yes, valid ang sale and pwede din po gawin yon 🙂

  32. may title lot dito ating bansa na pag-a-ari nang isang single na american cetizen. ngayon nagbigay siya nang full P.O.A sa kanyang pamangkin na isang pinoy para ibenta itong lot. ang tanong ko po” paano ko i-verify kung genuine ang kanyang ibinigay na FULL P.O.A sa kanyang pamangkin para ibenta ang kanyang pag-a-ari na loti… sana masagot mo ang tanung ko maraming salamat po

    1. Hello Lucresio. Ang non-Filipino ay hindi po maaaring makabili at magmay-ari ng lupa sa Pilipinas at ipangalan sa kanya dahil bawal po ito ayon sa Constitution. You can start po by verifying the title + traceback para malaman kung sino ang previous owners ng nasabing lupa at i-confirm kung talagang naipagbenta sa nasabing American citizen.

  33. what if po kung ang ofw paalis palang , pwd po bang dito na mismo iapply ang spa, kasi malayo ang embassy ng pilipinas sa location ng work ko,, pag land travel 8 hrs and pag plane travel 1hr

    1. Hi Delmar! Yes, mas maganda kung magawa na sa Pilipinas ang SPA since mas mura ang fees at hindi na kailangan ng consularization 🙂 Notaryo lang at valid na ang SPA.

  34. Hello po. Ask ko lang. May SPA na po ako then may red ribbon na din from Consulate of Milan. Ngayon nung ni release wala siyang signature ng witnesses. Then sabi nila kahit papirmahan ko na lang sa dalawa kong kaibigan. Ngayon, napirmahan na kaso yung isa nagkamali po ng pirma sa principal siya nag sign. Tanggapin po kaya yun sa DFA for my birth certificate and cenomar? Nilagyan ko na lang po ng (WITNESS) kase di ko naman kasalanan yon.

    1. Hello Kay! If nailagay naman as witness, then baka tanggapin narin po yun. Anyway, ang titignan naman is kung sino ang inyong attorney-in-fact na dapat nakapirma din sa SPA 🙂

      1. Hi. SPA was made for someone trusted para po sa housing loan. Can SPA also allows that trusted person to open a new debit/bank account using my name since im the principle buyer? Thanks

        1. Hi there! We think this won’t be allowed by the bank, but it’s better to ask them directly if this is possible 🙂 Since you are the principal buyer and you need to open an account under your name, you will be asked to sign certain documents, including signature card. This means you have to personally appear po and not just assign someone on your behalf.

  35. Our loan is about to be take out from Pag ibig, but there is an excess proceeds which we requested to be in cheque however they are requesting for SPA in receiving and encashing it. does the SPA we provided to process all documents for loan is not enough for me to receive and encash the cheque?

    1. Hi Jeany! Apparently, if the purpose states that “to process all documents,” hindi po included dito ang encashment. The purpose of SPA must be specific, which could be the reason why PAG-IBIG is requesting another SPA primarily for the encashment.

  36. Maam lara panu po mag pa authenticate ng birth certificate? nasa abroad po ako. Kelangan ko po ba ipadala yung documents ko?

  37. Good evening. If the principal of an SPA is a married couple and one died already, is the SPA the married couple issued still valid? Question 2, what if both had died already, the validity of the issued SPA “dies” with them right?

  38. Hi Lara,

    I created a SPA and designate my mom as attorney in fact to process my school requirements & claim my last pay check at work.

    Is it ok that I am the only one who signed the SPA?

    Then I will go to Consulate for notary and send it to Ph.

    It’s expensive to send a mail for them so she can sign and then mail it back to me for my signature & notary and then mail it to her again. Kya I want to make sure before I act on it.

    Thank you so much!!!

  39. My aunt gave me SPA for acquiring properties and executing construction and signing docs on her behalf. However the passport of my aunt indicated in the SPA has already expired. Is the SPA still valid? Considering we will provide a copy of her new passport.

  40. hi im ann my husband po kc hvng trouble sa pgkuha ng qatar police clearnce is it posible po ba na mkakuha dto ng authentication certificte kc ung gnwa po ng consulate ng canda spa nka notarized na po nw sinend po ng aswa ko sa qatar hnd po tinggap kc wala pong authentication certificate..pwed po kya dto sa pilipinas iprocess ung certfcte nia kht sa canada gnwa ung spa nia tnx po.

  41. pwede di bang magbigay nang SPA ang tita kong american cetizen san kanyang pamangkin na isang pilipino na hindi consularized kung dito sa pilipinas kukunin at gagawin ang SPA

    1. Hi Luke! If sa Pilipinas ginawa ang SPA, no need for it to be consularized. Pero dapat, notarized ang SPA para maging valid and binding 🙂

  42. Hello po. yung wife ko na nagresign sa company nya pero hindi npo sya nakabalik dito sa dubai due to her medical condition.kukunin po namin yung graduity nya pero hiningan po ako ng spa beneficiary as a husbund pra ako po ang kukuha..pwede ko po bang iaply dito sa phil consulate dubai ang spa kahit po nsa pilipinas ang wife ko.,hindi po sya makapagpanotarize sa pinas due to her medical condition.please advise..salamat po

    1. Hi Leo! Saan po na-execute ang SPA? If sa Pilipinas, notarized SPA is enough and yun na po ang ipapakita ninyo sa Philippine Consulate upang makuha ang benefits 🙂

  43. Hello! My aunt made me her attorney-in-fact a day before she left for Australia. Basically, the SPA is allowing me to act on her behalf on anything related to her condo like submitting documents to SMDC, signing contracts of lease (the condo is being offered as a rental unit), and accepting payments from the said contracts of lease.

    Next week, I am closing a new lease deal and will have to sign the contract as her representative through the SPA we signed. My aunt is currently in Australia right now. But we signed the SPA a day before she left Manila. In short, the SPA was executed here in the Philippines.

    In this case, is notarization of the SPA required or not?

    Thank you so much!

  44. hi, if ang property ay nasa Pinas at ang me ari ay u. s. citizen na then, she wanted to sell it. Gusto nya mag execute ng spa in favor of her son who is also a u. s. citizen and both of them are living now in america, what will be the procedure? pls. answer.. thanks

    1. Hi Daniel! We’re not familiar with this process since it involves sale of property already. It is best to consult a lawyer regarding this matter since they are more knowledgeable on this. Thanks!

  45. Hi, salamat sa blog na ito. I have a question kasi I’ve been reading articles and also communicate with the developer pero di pa din malinaw sa akin. Here’s my case.
    1. I own a condo and I want to sell it. I am i Singapore.
    2. I found a buyer who is also in Singapore.
    3. We have to sign the Deed of Assignment and Transfer of Rights here in Singapore and have it consularized.

    My Questions:
    1. Kailangan pa bang lawyer ang gumawa nito bago dalhin sa Embassy?
    2. Kung yes, kailangan i-notaryo ng lawyer sa Pilipinas? But we both are not in the Philippines.

    What are our options?

    Salamat ng marami for answering my questions.

    1. Hi Celeste! The good news is there are available forms online. Copy, paste, and edit lang according to your terms and agreement and pwede na siya ipa-notarize by a lawyer 🙂

  46. we tried having our SPA consularized but the notary in the US would not sign our notary unless our attorney in fact in the Philippines signs it first and get it notarized. our AIF tried to have it notarize but they would not have it notarized unless it has been notarized in the US. what to do?

  47. Hi,

    How long can a General SPA authenticated or consularised for po?
    I am representing my family on an ongoing property case po kasi, and they are all in the US, how long can I use it po for there are several cases to be filed po kasi. I appreciate your reply po soon, thank you so very much

    1. Hi Scherie. If the SPA states that you will represent your family until the property case is finalized, then dun lang po matatapos ang inyong authority.

  48. Hi
    If a special power of attorney is between mother and son. Son as a grantor and mother as the attorney in fact. Is it possible that the mother will sign for his son in in grantor jus putting a “for”?
    Thank in advance

    1. Hi Ramir! If the SPA specifically indicates that the mother is the attorney-in-fact, then yes, mother can sign and transact on son’s behalf. Thanks!

  49. Hi, we are planning to sell our properties in the philippines-I am now a British citizen, with no Filipino passport, can I get SPA in Philippines embassy London and get it consularized/notarised and post to my father in the Philippines? Does it need t be signed by myself and my husband or Is my signature alone ok. Thanks x

    1. Hi Reg! Who owns the properties? If it’s just you, then no need for husband to sign. Otherwise, he has to sign the SPA since he owns the properties as well. Consularization is also important since the document was executed overseas.

  50. hi. i am planning to buy a property. yung seller nasa ibang bansa pero nagpagawa ng SPA last 2016 pa notarized and consularized. valid pa ba ang spa?

  51. I need to name my brother as my attorney-in-fact. I live in Houston and he lives in Cebu. How can his signature be authenticated and consularized when he is not in the U.S.? Should he sign the SPA?

    1. Hi Carmen! Your brother need not sign the SPA. What matters most are your signature and the purpose for execution of SPA. Thanks!

  52. Hi good evening! I just want to ask about SPA. My mother and my sister will apply for a housing loan next year. Right now we are paying for the monthly equity until May next year but she will be going abroad this July. I wonder about the process of acquiring the SPA since she is also included for the application of the housing loan. Thank you so much.

  53. Dear Lara,
    Good day. What if the SPA is already consularized in California, but it was not notarized. the witness (only one) and attorney-in-fact signed the SPA here in the philippines, then it was sent to the owner in california, he signed the spa and was have it consularized.

    Is it considered a legal or binding document for selling house and lot?

    Thank you

    1. Hi John! To be valid and binding in the Philippines, the document must be both notarized before a Notary Public and consularized before the Philippine Embassy since the SPA was not executed in the Philippines. The attorney-in-fact and purpose indicated in the SPA must likewise be specific.

  54. Hi Ms Lara
    Ask lang po mrn kz car loan ang pinsan ko at uncle ko..na approve cla ng bank na ang principal ang pinsan ko and then yung father nia ang co buyer n nsa U.S..Pano po kaya un cia mkapag auntenticate ng documents dun eh U.S citizen na cia?? Pde po kya na mging valid nlng kung notary public na lng sa US ang gmtin at hndi na Consul ng pilipinas?? Thanks po

    1. Hi Anne! We’re not sure regarding this since may US citizen involved. We don’t want to give any advice na hindi po kami sigurado. Have you tried asking the bank regarding this requirement?

  55. Good Evening po, hihingi lang po ako ng advice kasi po naka set po for appointment sa dfa for passport application yung dalawang anak ko. Both minors po sila isang 9 y/o at 3 y/o prob ko po kasi kung sakali yung makakasama nila sa dfa while processing the application kasi yung father po nila ayaw sila samahan kaya po naisip ko kumuha ng SPA dito sa philippine embassy dito sa Singapore pero baka po kasi matagalan tg di umabot dahil po sa July 13 na yung appointment nila. Just in case po ba pwedeng sa pinas ako kumuha ng SPA at papirmahan nalang sa tatay mga bata at kapatid ko nalang ang iauthorized ko to act on my behalf to proccess the application para di na din po hassle at mas malaki ang gastos kung dito pa ako sa Singapore magpapagawa ng SPA. At kailangan pa po kaya ng id’s ng tatay ng mga bata at birth certificate niya kapag po pumunta na sila sa a DFA? Maraming salamat po this is urgent.

    1. Hi Christine! Baka po kasi hingin din po ang consent ninyo si minors po ang mga anak ninyo. Nonetheless, pwede parin po subukan na mag-issue nalang ng SPA ang father. Mag-present nalang po ng documents like IDs as proof. Salamat po.

  56. How can i check if the SPA is notarized is valid? Can a person base abroad and the said address was used in the SPA, can the documents be notarized without the date of arrival in the passport?

    1. Hi Mena! What’s important is the signatory. Unfortunately, it will be “challenging” to prove the authenticity of a particular document because it will be a matter of “he said, she said.” To check the validity and authenticity of the SPA, one must be able to present necessary proof to back it up 🙂 Thanks!

  57. Hi! Just want to ask. If ever I will be assigning an agent, is there a way to remove him or her to that stature in case he/she abuses authority?

  58. Hi Lara, if i am to appoint my Mom in law or my brother as my AIF here in manila, wll i still need my wifes’ signatures and IDs since she is studying overseas? Thanks! Jojo

    1. Hi Jojo! We can’t comment since we are not aware of the facts. Let’s say if the purpose of the SPA is to sell a property where your wife is also a part-owner, then you will still need your wife’s signature.

  59. Hi, Just wanted to ask. I applied for a home loan and I am appointing my sister as my aif/co-borrower. She’s currently in Singapore. Does the SPA have to be notarized & consularized?

    1. Hi Jay! Who is the principal borrower? If it’s you, then no need to consularize the document since dito naman po gagawin ang SPA sa Pilipinas.

  60. Hello Lara! I need your help. One of the requirements needed for a housing contract is an SPA. My father is the principal owner and nandito siya ngayon. Kailangan pa po ba ng signature ng mom ko? She’s already working abroad na. They said na we need to consularize and notarize the said document. Do we need to have her signature since yung property naman is sa dad ko? Thank you!

    1. Hi Sean! Perhaps the lender considered na conjugal property kaya nirerequire ang signature ng mom mo. If the owner in the property states that the owner is your father married to your mother, then kailangan po talaga ng signature niya. To push through the housing loan, your mother can execute SPA consularized and notarized. Hope this helps.

  61. Hello,

    I have a notarized SPA document that needed to be consularized. Is it better to mail the documents to the Philippine Consulate or show up in person? Please advise. Thanks.

    1. Hi Jean! It is best to go directly to the Philippine Embassy to verify the identity of the person and authenticity of the document 🙂

  62. I am confused with the term “executed”. Does this refer to the place of signing the SPA or the place where it will be used?
    I am going to the Philippines from Australia. My wife is Philippina, lives with me in Australia and has property in her name in the Philippines. I am going to the Philippines with an SPA to handle the sale of this property (It has been sold) What is the place of execution, Australia or the Philippines? In other words, do I need it Consularized or not? Thanks.

    1. Hi Theo! Executed is where the SPA was made and signed 🙂 If the SPA was made and signed in Australia, then it has to be consularized by the Philippine Embassy in Australia to make it valid in the Philippines.

  63. Hello po.. I just want to ask po kung ok lang po ba yung SPA na gagawin sa Pilipinas pagkatapos po isesend sa amin dito sa NZ para pirmahan, then after po isesend back namen sa Pinas through courrier.? Pagkatapos po sa Pinas na po magpapanotarize. TIA

    1. Hi Jen! If we will be strict about it, bawal po yun since we are circumventing the process 🙂 To make things simpler and avoid consularization, you can do that (although we do not recommend it). Please consult a lawyer regarding this to be sure about this since we don’t want to give wrong advice on something we’re not familiar with. Thanks!

  64. Ask ko lang..i have issued an SPA to my mom last 2015 pa…i didnt put any expiration date ….and sa ph namin gnawa before i work abroad…its just for selling one of my property kya lang wala naman bumbili before…kya hindi na ko nagpagawa uli…pero now my bumibili nah…is it still valid…kasi nasa barko ako work hindi madali maghanap ng embassy

  65. Hi, If a Japanese citizen living in Japan wants to execute SPA for his property in the Philippines to a Japanese citizen living in the Philippines, does the principal needs to go to Philippine embassy in Japan to consularize and notarize the SPA?

    Hoping for your immediate reply. Thank you.

    1. Hi Mae! Yes, the SPA needs to be consularized to make it valid and binding in the Philippines since the purpose stated in the SPA will be executed in the Philippines 🙂

  66. Hello, I am an american citizen living in the U.S. my daughther in Pinas would like to use me as a co-borrower in the bank for house financing purpose. Please guide me on how the SPA procedure requirements be done .thank you and God bless

    1. Hi Charito! You can draft a Special Power of Attorney (there are tons of sample SPA online) indicating that you are a co-borrower and you allow your daughter to transact on your behalf. Please have it notarized and consularized in the nearest Philippine Embassy to make it valid and binding in the Philippines. Thanks!

    1. Hi Daniel! Pasensya na po pero hindi po kami sigurado dito. We don’t want to give out wrong info, so we suggest po that you check this directly with the Philippine Embassy in UAE. Thanks!

  67. Hi. Ask ko lang nagsubmit ako ng spa indicating therein conomar sa phil consulate in notarysection. Then pinacourier. Week after ang nareceive namin is notarized spa. Nagtataka ko kasi akala ko cenomar ung darating na documents. May idea po ba kayo scenario na ganito? Para kasing bumalik lang ung docs na sinubmit.

    1. Hello. You submitted SPA sa Philippine Consulate? For what purpose po? Usually po, pag nag-submit ng SPA, they will notarize it na po.

  68. Hi mam. i have a lot in the phils that i want to sell. Nag pgawa ako ng SPA for my wifewhile im still in the PH. Tatanong ko lang mam. Meron hawak asawa ko na SPA notarized. Once n mabenta n un lupa ko. ggawa un wife ko ng deed of sale with her name on it? thank you

    1. Hi Abdel! Sino po ang owner ng property? Your wife can process the sale of property and siya ang pipirma on your behalf.

  69. Hi.My mother is an ofw and is working in Kuwait. As a bank requirement in the Philippines, i need to send SPA to be consularized in Kuwait. Just wanna ask if consularized SPA in Kuwait still valid if i make it notarized here in the Philippines?

    1. Hi Wie! Who will be the attorney-in-fact? If your mother will assign you as AIF, then the document must be notarized and consularized in the Philippine Embassy in Kuwait to make it valid here 🙂 Salamat po!

  70. Hello poh mag papa Spa poh ang mr ko sa dubai about poh sa pagibig loan tanong ko lng poh need pah poh b nya mag sama ng witness para sa sp at anu poh mga kailangan requirement ang kailangan nya dalhin. Thanks

    1. Hi Tine! Just bring the Special Power of Attorney na ino-notarize and consularize. Yes, mas maganda po pag may kasama na witness. Salamat po!

  71. Question lang po

    If my brother is in jeddah and he wants me to be his SPA, i would send him the SPA form blank po ba? He should fill up first then pa red ribbon then send it here sa Philippines before po ako pumirma?

    1. Hi Jeth! Your brother must sign the document assigning you as his attorney-in-fact. No need naman po kayo na mag-sign. Take note po that this has to be consularized since the document is executed overseas. Salamat!

  72. Hi, I want to ask if there is expiration date for SPA & affidavit of support issued from the Philippines Consulate in Dubai to be used to renew the minors passport in the Philippines.? Thank you

    1. Hi Maria! SPA will only expire upon the fulfillment of the condition. For instance, if the SPA states that said document will be used to sell a property, mage-expire lang ang SPA kapat nakapag-sell na ng property 🙂

  73. I am planning to buy a car but I am an OFW. Either i need to appear personally or I should have a SPA document. My problem is that I can’t be in the Philippines to sign the SPA, also, applying for a consular signed document is time consuming. Are there other ways for my SPA to be legal?

    1. Hi Elaine! I’m afraid that’s the procedure we need to follow. If SPA is executed overseas, then it has to be consularized as well to make it valid and binding in the Philippines.

  74. Hello. May i ask lang in my case kasi my husband in based in japan and we need an SPA for a housing loan but we are having a hard time accomplishing it because it has to be translated in japanese before he can notarized it and have it consularized in the phil. Embassy. Please help

  75. Hi, I just want to check if the SPA has to be consularize even if the person abroad suddenly visited the Philippines and made the SPA here. Do we have to present proof of his visit here in the Philippines to be valid?

    1. Hi! If the SPA was made here in the Philippines, no need to have it consularized na. You can attach proof of visit nalang to be sure 🙂

  76. Hi! can I apply spa for my foreign husband? We will buy a property and since it is easier for him to travel so I want him to do it on my behalf instead. And also, does spa apply to open a bank account under my name? Thanks!

    1. Hi Kat! You can indicate those purposes on your SPA. The purpose of SPA must be specific so your husband can use the said document to act on your behalf.

  77. How about my brother is in abroad and his no time to go in embassy because his only off is friday and theres no ofgice at that day to get spa for the documents he needed to authenticate in dfa is it okey if we get spa here in the philippines?

    1. Hi Kimberly! If we understood correctly, your brother will assign someone in the Philippines as his attorney-in-fact? He should personally sign the documents indicating the specific purpose for SPA and have it consularized in the Philippine Embassy to make it valid and binding in the Philippines. Salamat po!

  78. Hello.
    Iam an OFW and will marry my fiance by end of this year. On requirement is to have a marriage lisence. Can i use SPA to appoint my brother or my parents to acquire it? Thank you.

    1. Hi Karlito! Are you getting a marriage license? From what we know, kayo po ang dapat kumuha dahil a-attend po muna kayo ng seminar bago ma-issue ang marriage license. Proxy po is not allowed even if may SPA. Hope this help. Thanks!

  79. Hello po, ask ko lang po kung paano po mag papagawa ng SPA sa parent kung hindi naman po siya mentally capable? Kasi may bipolar disorder?

    1. Hi there! Consent is a vital requirement po when executing documents. Perhaps, you can assign someone else to be your attorney-in-fact para po hindi din magka-problem. Salamat.

  80. Hi

    Im careen and residing here in dubai, i have the School documents in dfa and for release and am getting the SPA from the Philippine Embassy here in dubai, i have to sent po ba sa philippines yung original na copy ng spa from embassy or pwede lng e scan sa rrepresentative ko dun?
    thank you

    1. Hello Careen! Original document is required to make it valid and binding in the Philippines. Please take note that the document has to be consularized as well since it was not done in the Philippines. Salamat!

    1. Hi Donna! The SPA will be valid for as long as the purpose stated in the document is not yet done. For instance, if the purpose is to get a specific document in DFA, mag-eexpire lang ang SPA once nakuha na ang document 🙂 Hope this helps!

  81. Hello Lara. I need your advise regarding the SPA. i have bought a property in the Philippines about 13 years ago and I am selling it now. I was told to get a SPA by the buyer. Which embassy do i obtain it? Im a UK citizen now but i bought it when I was still a Philippine citizen. I just need some clarification. Many thanks

    1. Hi Kai! Why the need for SPA? Will you assign someone to act as a seller on your behalf? If yes, then the SPA must be executed, notarized, and conularized in the Philippine Embassy in UK 🙂 Hope this helps!

  82. Hi Lara,

    I am OFW from dubai, magpapaconsularized kasi ako ng SPA sa Phil embassy dito sa dubai,kailangan po ba tlga n both notarized at consularized para maging valid.sabi kasi ng taga banko pag executed abroad consularized lang. At regarding po sa witness kailangan po ba n kasma ko sila sa pagpunta sa phil embassy, hindi b allowed ung papipirmahin ko nlng sila sa form then my kopya ako ng proof docs or passport nila.. Or pwede b akong mag ask ng favor sa tao n hindi kakilala sa embassy para pumirma at maging witness..Salamat po ng marami 🙂

    1. Hi Mike! Notarized po dapat since SPA is considered as a public document; and consularized since it is executed overseas. We’re not sure regarding the witnesses since kadalasan naman po, pinapapirma na mismo po sa may notaryo na.

  83. hello. may I ask po.paano po kapag yung underlined word nang spa is single pero married po talaga cya, pwd po bang mag correct ang lawyer? i mean pwd po ba nyang correctionan yung underline word single to make it married? hndi na kasi mka pirma ulit yung principal kasi umalis na. salamat po

    1. Hi Van! The lawyer cannot make any corrections since hindi naman siya ang signatory ng SPA. Kailangan po ito i-correct ng principal sa SPA.

  84. hi ask ko lang po need paba ng consularized and notarized spa kung yung may ari nasa ibang bansa?at yung representative nya nasa pinas?

    1. Hello Razhell! If ang document ay gagawin sa ibang bansa, then yes, kailangan po consularized din ng Philippine Embassy 🙂

  85. Hi… gsto ko lng pong ma enlighten.. possible po b n mkpgpgwa ako ng SPA na 2 po ang iindicate n pngalan… ung isa po pra sa pagaassist ng passport ng kids ko at yung isa nmn po pra po sa mkksma nila s flight… slmat po

  86. Hello! I would like to ask, if me and my fiance going to the Philippines embassy, when she make the SPA does she need to write the specific details of the documentums? for example file number of birth certificate.

    Thank you in advance!

    1. Hi Daniel! The purpose for such SPA must be specified. Although it is not required, including the specific details will help 🙂

  87. Hi, my sister (a dual citizen) will be executing an SPA and assign me as AIF. Can an SPA have 2 purposes?
    1. Sell her land property
    2. Get her renewed PRC License

    She is currently here in the Philippines but will be returning abroad in a week.

    1. Hi Jun! Yes, you can include the said purposes in one document. Make sure to itemize it and be specific para hindi magkaroon ng discrepancy 🙂

  88. Hi! I just wnt to know. Possible to get SPA in the Philippines even im here in dubai. I neeD my Marriage contract to be authenticate at DFA MANILA. In behalf of me i will ask someone to do it. Is that possible or i really need to get here in Phil embassy dubai. Thank you

    1. Hi Elza! You can execute SPA in Dubai and have it notarized and consularized in the Philippine Embassy in Dubai to make it valid here in the Philippines 🙂

  89. Hello po. I am in USA San Francisco po. I signed an spa for a cousin to sign a contract (easement w/conpensation). Now currently i am looking to get out of contract with a conpany. I just realized that my spa was nevrr noterized or authenticated ineamail ko lang. Does that mean that my my contract is void to begin with?

  90. Hi! My friend is renewing his plan on Smart and it’s under his Dad’s name and his Dad is in another country. Smart requested for SPA just so he could renew his plan. Can you help us because we don’t have knowledge about SPA and the process it undergoes. THANKS!

    1. Hi RC! You can get a pro-forma copy of SPA online and just edit it according to the purpose. Then the dad must sign and have it notarized and authenticated in the Philippine Embassy since wala siya dito sa Pilipinas.

  91. Hi! I have already paid up my loan but now need to have my mom pick up the Title for me. I am in the U.S. and just very recently become a U.S. citizen. Do i then still have the SPA consularized in the Philippine Embassy ? My Philippine passport has long expired. Or would a notary now be sufficient?

  92. Hi. Good day. Saan po ba nagpapared ribbon ng SPA? Ipapasok ko po kasi sa pagibig yung binili ko pong bahay sa pinas. Pahelp naman po. Thanks. God bless

  93. Hi there. I am currently abroad but before I left the Philippines I left a letter in SPA format which I got from the internet authorizing my husband to take care of my financial obligations. I have not had that notarized. Can they just have that notarized even without me? Will that be valid then? Thanks.

  94. Hi po! Just want to ask paano kung expired na yung passport, which is one of the documents needed for SPA, can I use any form of identification instead?

    Need na kasi nung bank yung SPA within this month. Eh kaka-renew ko lang po nung August 20, and I’ll be able to receive my new passport on October pa po.

  95. Hello,

    Im based in the Philippines and my brother needs to appoint me as atty-in-fact. He’s already a naturalized US citizen. Does his SPA need to still be consularized at the PH embassy in US,

  96. Hi atty. lara,

    badly in need of your advise.

    I am planning to buy a house and lot to a seller with a spa attached to the transfer certificate of title shown to me coming from his estranged husband.but my problem is yung properties na balak ko bilhin is nakatira currently yung husband tsaka yung anak nila and ang balak ng nung seller eh “ISIKRETO” sa kanila ang bentahan.apparently merong misunderstanding ung husband and their children to the seller.is it ok and safe for me to buy it po ba or malaking gulo yung papasukin ko.nag aalangan kasi ako baka pedeng ilaban ng asawa sa korte and pede nya bawiin yung spa nya na stipulated dun sa tct aside from the fact na di nila alam na nabenta na yung bahay na tinutuluyan nila.

    thank you po,

    1. Hi Nico! Mukha nga po mahirap ang situation na yan. Maaari i-contest ng husband ang sale, lalo yan na doon sila nakatira. Kanino po nakapangalan ang property? Kung sa mag-asawa pa, dapat consent ng parehong mag-asawa ang kailangan at dapat pareho din po sila pipirma sa Deed of Sale.

  97. Hello, nagbabasakali lng baka may idea kayo or naka experience buying house in camella, apparently they asked me to provide 7 original copies of SPA, which shouldnt be an issue but consular cost is per document copy.

    So sobrang mahal namn, d ba uso na ipag pasa pasa ang original copy?

    1. Hi Carla! Unfortunately, that is their requirements. Perhaps you could ask them to be a little “considerate” about it and explain the costs of getting SPA consularized pa.

  98. Hi! Ms. Lara,

    Magkano po ang fees pag magpapagawa ng SPA? Kahit range lang po. Saka need po ba talaga magpunta ng law office ng magpapagawa ng SPA, pwede po kayang magprint nalang from online templates? Mother to son, bale si son po ang AIF. pwede po kayang pirmahan na lang ni mother ang SPA tapos anak nalang po ang magpupunta ng law office para magpanotarize? Thank you so much po.

    Rey

    1. Hi Rey! The cost for notarization is less than P1,000. You can get a copy of SPA online and edit it according to your purpose. No need na po magpagawa sa lawyer, unless may kakilala kayo. Sa Notary Public po magpapanotarize and not necessarily sa law office. Hope this helps.

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